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GunBroker.com Forums. The New Henry Big Boy X models are looking like may be the best value in a New Lever action rifle. The three taped holes were 20.0 gr. If you want to shoot .357 Magnum and .38 Special ammo, just long throat the factory chamber! Then there is the 40-90 Sharps straight 3 1/4" that can be formed from Bell .405 basic cases. (Photo: Winchester) Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles, The Staying Power of the .257 Roberts Cartridge, 10mm Firepower: Springfield XD-M Elite 3.8 Compact Pistol Review, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Through my industry connections, I heard plenty of finger-pointing about metallurgy and propellant choices, but the ultimate outcome was that the revolver market for this cartridge simply dried up. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. But its the old Supply and demand scenario. I might have to take that to the range next time and see what happens. Admittingly I was single then but it was relaxing! The 125-grain loads have not quite as much muzzle energy as NATO's standard infantry rifle round, the 5.56x45mm. Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. Everyone asks if they can shoot MAGnums in the .357 MAXimum chamber; however, with the .3" long jump before the bullet even gets to the throat, you can't expect great accuracy. I shot 180 hardcast lead both from Buffalo Bore and HSM bear loads. Many shooters used their long-barreled .357 Magnum revolvers but usually longed for a bit more velocity to go with those heavy bullets. . I much prefer .30 caliber bullets in any of those platforms. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Headquarters for everything .357 Remington Maximum, Superlative accuracy from MGM 1-20 twist rifle barrel shot at 80 yards. Ill just be here waiting on .357 lever guns to be relevant. Additionally, .357 Magnum lever action rifles can accept optics as most are pre-tapped for scopes and can easily be fit for a tactical rail. You would be hard pressed to find an all around cartridge as good as the .357. This is a high-class place so act respectable. For some reason it's hard to exceed what 2400 can do in the .357 mag, but H110/W296 and lil gun should also be viable options. From what I hear the Henry trigger is better though. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. Yup. Also have a stainless Rossi in .45 Colt. Everybody wanted to get their hands on my lever-action .30-30, and nobody who shot it was disappointed. That stands for International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. .357 inches (all 350 legend) shell case length: Source: www.okshooters.com Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum. Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. . The Jelly Head Maximum utilizes an extended taper and fluted ports to tighten patterns up to 20 perc OUR STOCK NUMBER:13211 CONDITION: NEW IN THE BOX MAKE/MODEL: ROSSI..R-92 ACTION: LEVER RIFLE CALIBER: .357 MAGNUM/.38 SPECIAL BARREL: 20" CAPACITY: 12+1 FURNITURE: DARK BRAZILIA Uberti 1873 Cattleman II NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550) This pistol is brand new in the box. Check the charts out at the bottom of the page. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. Apples should be in pie. im looking to trade for a 357 lever action.. Good luck.hope you brought your best marbles.. Is taught at the Range! While visiting Rugers New Hampshire facility in 1985, I learned that when the company built the California Highway Patrol Commemorative model of the No. H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. Perfect for those states with straight wall case limits and/or overall cartridge case length limits where in most cases the .45 cal. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. First and foremost is that all the straight-walled cartridges in this article max out at somewhat close range. 1/ picking up brass at this range is not required, only the reloaders typically pick it up. 008-E503829 | MTM. Because many states have recently enacted hunting laws that allow for straight-case centerfire cartridges, in addition to the previous shotgun slugs only. by Hobie Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 am, Post Every time TTAG runs a lever gun article I want one. The fact that they are very difficult to find, new or used, is a testament of that they are still relative and in high demand. Give a Gift Most of all it looks cool and reminds me of the good old days when guns were all made from steel and wood instead of plastic. Max. But WHATEVER YOU DO, dont use FMJ for self defense. One, intended as a super revolver cartridge, failed to make the grade in firearms with cylinders but is a fine performer in other platforms. Lots of these 'oddball' wildcats and so on can be found on, http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 rguns.html, http://drcfirearmsoutdoors.businesscata tion-rifle, http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw y_2012.pdf, It is currently Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:00 am. MSRP is $1,223, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, itll command less of a premium in-store. It has a lot going for it: you can drive a 125 grain JHP .38 to .357 handgun velocities, its 16 barrel is just as handy as an AR, you can reload on the fly like a shotgun, its legal in all 50 states, not frightening to non-POTG, and is simple to operate. Maximum, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Hodgdon starting load for the 140 gr. At least it can use use the same bullets as my Smiths. Rossi 92 is one of the best purchases Ive ever made. For them a pistol caliber Lever carbine makes a lot of sense. Gun Cleaning Equipment Bore Snakes Gun Cleaning Bore Guides Gun Cleaning Brushes . ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. You can find ammo, and buy it if you can afford it. To reload the .357, a Lee Loader is all you need, plus a supply of primers, a pound of powder and bullets. Over time, Sellier & Bellot expanded its product line to include rifle cartridges and smokeless powder. Most of our deer were harvested at 30-45 yards. Winchester just introduced the 350 Legend for all the people who are stuck using straight walled cartridges. .30-30 is just a little unpleasant in it due to the light weight and stock. Wow, so many new posts on the 357 Mag rifles. Suppessor equiped lever guns with Subsonic plinker ammo are a hoot to shoot. Surprised no one has mentioned Smith and Wesson 627 Performance Center 8 shot in 357. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. H110. I really like my lever guns, also have a early JM guide gun in 45-70 and also one in 450 Marlin. Both are top performers. I really do want a .357 levergunbut Im perfectly confident in my .30-30. This cartridge began the " Magnum era" of handgun ammunition. In those area, they cant legally own an AR, AK, etc. And one 1886 Winchester 45-70 takedown model, ( rare). Barrel has only been to the range for load development. I really want to get one in .357 mag. No bloody wonder that Remingtons in bankruptcy again. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. I bought a new carrier and internal parts and fitted them to feed a loaded 357 Maximum. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. No joke. There'll be no market for it. Brand: Winchester Firearms. Being forced to use the Winchester Trapper, the horror. Here are the features to watch out for. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. Lever actions are a hoot to shoot. by Chris83716 Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:35 pm, Post Please contact us with any questions, or for purchase options. Web the.357 maximum was an effort to give you.357 magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. lever gun that I own and have ever shot, easy on the arms and has some versatility. This is especially true if you plan to hunt or compete in silhouette competitions as lighter bullets don't maintain enough energy at longer ranges. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.) Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. Best of both worlds. Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. I did it some years back when Indiana got new deer hunting regulations. If you start a 140 grain XTP from a 16" .357 carbine at 2000 fps, your retained velocity at 200 will be around 1250- typical handgun muzzle velocity for today's watered-down .357 factory loads. get the Lee hand press. The 1892 was one of Winchesters rifles designed by John Browning. While Ive never loaded brass I have loaded shotshells on a card table in the living room with a mec 650. Caliber: .357 MAG/ .38 Special Capacity: 10+1 Barrel Length: 18 Barrel Type: Octagon Blued Steel Rate of Twist: 1:16 Overall Length: 35.5 Receiver Material: CaseHardened Steel Rear Sight: Buckhorn Front Sight: Blade Stock Material: Walnut Weight: 7.4 lbs. You can boost the Unique up to around 11-12 grains, as I recall, and your gun should handle it fine with that bullet. Rechamber to .350 Legend from .357 Magnum or .357 Maximum: Add $25 to mill/convert the extractor for the rebated rimless .350 Legendcase rim. Such a longer cartridge is a pipe dream until someone steps up and makes a longer revolver cylinder. And of course the popular, accurate Dan Wesson revolvers came out with a long frame, long cylinder Max. One of the best, if not, the best little caliber you would ever want ! Its nice to check back in after so many years and see that my old photos and articles are still relevant. I wrote the original TTAG book on pistol-caliber levers back in the day, and Id like to add a few points to those made in this article. JWM, I too would love to have pairs of 357 and 44 mags. In bolt action or semi auto, I would choose the 350. Factory throats are more like a forcing cone, done to keep pressures down, does zero for accuracy. I have been wanting one for years now and always seem to miss the boat as they sell out quickly. Too bad Winchester lever guns arent still made in the USA. Most 158-grain and lighter bullets usually lack the jacket thickness for use on big game in a Contender. Yes I had one.. perry42 Nov 23, 2018 #12 .38-40. rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the .35 Rem. Buy .357 Maximum SuperMag 180g Hornady XTP HP 1800 FPS 20 rounds: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pistol Ammunition Ammunition All: 972984640. . My findings are three of us used 357 mag out of 2 Rossi lever at 20 inch and one Marlin with 16.25 to hunt blacktails and elk. Within a few weeks, the company got so many complaints, they halted production and never resumed. Loading your own was a matter of economic necessity for most of us, and wildcatting was very common. Id buy another Henry in a heartbeat, if my gun safe werent replete with levers already. The pre-lawyer Rossi 92s are nice guns. Note: A complete article about the .357 Maximum can be found on the Handgun Cartridge . And of course, such a gun would have to have a longer frame for the longer cylinder for the longer cartridge. Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. @ Ed Palumbo. The 357 Magnum is a highly regarded round for hunting and self-defense. Here in Ohio legal deer hunting rifle cartridges are straightwall cases from .357 to .50. New cartridge and rifle. Yeah, that .357 lever gun is so irrelevant you cant find one anywhere. Try it you won't regret it. Its blue with a 16.5 inch barrel. Ive had a similar experience. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. Made in 1988, nickel, no drag marks on cylinder, factory original box and paperwork, like new! Supply and demand. Im not particularly recoil sensitive (though getting old does suck) but from a power-to-controllability ratio standpoint, Ive always found the .357 to be the sweet spot. .357 caliber bullets (from left to right) 158 gr XTP, 180 gr XTP, 200 gr FTX, New 357 Rem Max casing. Did you go with the .375 Supermag rather than the .375 Winchester due to case length restrictions? Til inauguration day and beyond, demand will likely increase. The Henry Single Shot is one VERY nice little rifle! Hard to beat real world experience which is mainly what this site consists of. When the gun fired, it behaved like all revolvers in that the powder charge in those long chambers burned at a very high temperature. Bingo. I always attempt to stay in the mid range of the reload manual. AS ALWAYS, START ABOUT 10% LOW AND WORK UP! of rifles attached to horn or pommel and carried in a shuck of some sort. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thompson center contender barrel, 357 max, 21" blued at the best online prices at eBay! including a .40 S&W Barrel (view pictures). Id tend to agree with you. It lacks a top-mounted rail (you can still install one, the receiver is pre-tapped). For me, a Max levergun would only be desirable if it would cycle Mags and possibly Specials as well. Dan Wesson guns had easily-replaceable barrels and came with an extra in .357 Maximum. can anyone suggest a competent gunsmith? It should be noted the original loadings of the 357 mag were to 45,000 psi, but when the smaller framed 357's came on the market the pressure of the loads was reduced to 35,000 psi. Extremely fun to shoot makes them relevant. It shoots factory PMC 158 gr soft points into a half inch at 50 yards. Winchester Firearms 1873 Deluxe Sporting 357 Mag / 38 Spl Lever-Action Rifle with Color Case Hardene. Remington introduced the .357 Maximum cartridge in 1983 to considerable fanfare from the shooting press. by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post Shop online for discount .357 Remington Max ammunition from top ammo brands like Remington, Federal, Winchester, Hornady, CCI, Speer, and many more. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. A friend has suggested my neophyte inquiry might find assistance here: C2N14 because life is not energetic enough. Load data for 9 loads in caliber .357 Maximum with .355 . 2/ there are other living constraints and issues that make reloading not an option at this time. Maximum Expansion HP 157 38spl 38 1150fps, Traditions Outfitter G3 Single Shot .357 Magnum 22" Black / Silver CR571130, Rossi R92 Carbine .357 Magnum 20" Gold Barrel Bands 923572013-GLD, Benjamin Bulldog, Ben Bpbd3s Bulldog 357 Syn, Uberti 1873 Trapper Carbine Rifle .357 Magnum 16.125" Walnut 342435, Uberti 1873 Special Sporting Rifle .357 Magnum 24.25" Octagon Walnut 342760, Chiappa 1892 Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum 20" 10 Rds Walnut 920.129, Chiappa 1892 Lever Action Trapper Carbine .357 Mag 16" 8 Rds 920.335, Cimarron 1892 Carbine 20" Octagon CCH .357MAG 10+1 AS622 EZ PAY $126, Taylor Uberti 1873 Trapper .357MAG 18" Pistol Grip 10+1 550202 EZ PAY $147, Cimarron 1892 Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum 20" Walnut 10 Rounds AS621, Cimarron Uberti 1894 26" .38-55 6+1 CA2903 EZ PAY $117. So when they become available, people on this blog will be talking about them. Youll see how relevant lever guns are next time the bolsheviks are in the white house. The world's most powerful firearm database. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading. Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. This is my wifes go-to rifle for defense. Not all of us have the ability for various reasons to reload. Jan 23, 2014. Gun Genius. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Show Only with Pictures Also have a Winchester 1886 in 45-90, I shoot 45-70 loads in it and had no issues. I got a 336BL a couple years ago and I have no complaints. But I take your point that a rifle can be usefuland fun. Finding component will likely be tough though. All in all the .357 may be the best TEOTWAWKI round going. Also, those hotter loaded ammunitions usually over boast about their velocity. Notify Me When Available. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. We show you how. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. We used Small Rifle primers for all load data, and they did fine with the propellants we tested. H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. The resulting airspace does no good. But that being said, your S&W 8 shot Revolver is a nice pistol. Rechamber to .357 Maximum or rethroat .357 Magnum factory chamber: Send the TC, CVA, ORHenry BARREL ONLY, and $125 check or money order, total including UPS shipping. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Rethroating, .357 Magnum barrels and rechambering to .357 Remington Maximum and Winchesters new .350 Legend. Finding ammo can be tough for any caliber these days, but if youve already got a stash of .38 and .357 for your handguns, youve already got that covered. Shop 357 Magnum ammo online for hunting, self defense, and target practice. Firearms returned for any reason other than damage or undisclosed conditions will be subject to a 10% restocking fee. I would like to try Reloader 7 with bullets heavier than 180 grains. In addition to the rapid erosion of the barrel face adjacent to the cylinder, the topstrap was being grooved by a combination of hot gas and partially burned propellant granules. Check out ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html and ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html. I use handguns for everyday carry. Some additional info on Fury Bullets, Detroit, MI. And as far as lever action rifles in pistol calibersthey have never been irrelevant over their 150 year history. What would be the right bullet? Not all rifles need to be used to kill commies. Included with the barrel is a stainless steel MGM scope base and stainless steel Burris Z Rings. Then you wont be caught short. Mounted basic fixed sights on it. 1,254 max in one manual . Try some Blue Dot in your .357 Mag, chronograph it and see how you like it. I am sure I am not the only one that is open to it but finds that it is not possible right now. properly aligns and supports the shank of the bullet as it enters the rifling. It downloads well, unlike H110/296. Ive never understood the fascination with Black Rifles. JM Browning did design a lot of the Winchester lever action rifles. Im going to be very careful dipping into a little bit of political prognostication, but I think most of us would acknowledge that gun-banners have a list of the guns they hate most (cough AR cough) and that John Waynes Cowboy Rifle is way down at the bottom of that list. I saw your reference to benighted states and then AR, AK. If a customer takes possession of the firearm, Intrepid considers this acceptance of the condition, and will not offer a return. Caveat Emptor. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? The 30A is a Marlin 336 for 70% off.). Comments like yours on why dont you just reload are what limits some of my shooting time on the metallic silhouette range as its full of old vietnam era (and older) shooters that whine more than a Karen in the wild if you dont pick up your brass with intent to reload. I take the time to dial in bores, do all throating separately forthe best co-axial alignment of the throat with the bore, and cut a few tenths of a thousandth tighter throat. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? The .357 sounds like just the ticket for deer hunting in heavy brush where 70-80 yard shots are about the max you will find. The AR-15s in .223 are just glorified rabbit guns in my opinion. *We Never share your email without your permission. It's another special purpose cartridge that has an eerie resemblance to the Max. It shoots pretty good. Of course, I dont carry it on a single point like the muh AR crowd does. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. Go for a hike in the woods or mountains and you see deer most times of the year. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. Brand: Winchester. I had owned two previously and traded them off as they were great with jacketed bullets but not lead (microgroove). Worried about scratching that brass? Barrel shoots Hornady 180 grain XTPs very well. NEVER see one at any reasonable price at any LGS. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:57 pm, Post Also, the Contender comes in longer barrel lengths than the 7.5 and 10.5 inch barrels that Ruger made the Blackhawk with for the .357 Rem. With it I have killed deer, antelope, coyotes, feral hogs and. I watched him shoot an elk at about 70 yards once behind the shoulder and one through and had complete penetration on both, elk went 20 yards. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. While I do want one in .357 for ammo sharing with my handguns Id be open to one in .327 Federal as well. But I just couldnt ever wrap my brain around spending enough on a lever action to buy two or three semi-auto rifles. It is my go-to gun for self-defense at home and in my car. The buyer should be picky. Or, take advantage of facory .350 Legend ammo. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. The action and trigger needed work, so that cost another $125 from my local Gunsmith in Oregon. new No sales CA - NY - know your state laws! Looks like AA 1680 is the top powder choice. OM56, cant disagree. They can. 45-70. Id stay away from used Marlins made anywhere from 2005-2015 though. Id bet the old timers that rode the wild and woolly west would have liked the magnum in a rifle. The .357 Maximum went away. The youngsters love shooting it with .38 spl. (I do have a Ruger LCR that was pretty good out of the box and a 50 year old 1911 that are in the running.). This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. The old Ford Pickup had that seatback that folded forward. GunBroker.com Forums. They also make a valid home defense rifle AND a great truck gun, to keep the Karens and Kens from whining ASSAULT RIFLE. At least you should expect the kind of quality youd get from a Remington bolt gun in the price range. This caliber in both the bottle neck and straight wall was a popular "high velocity" for it's day buffalo caliber. Also, after breaking it in, the Rossis action (which is the major criticism for this gun) was just as smooth as the Winchesters, Marlins and Henrys I have shot. As to market, a very subjective matter. When I lived in the mountains caretaking a state property, soon learned the first day of hunting season would see the deer herd moving onto the property, bedding down behind the residence and the snow plow shed. I bought a brandified new Ruger .357 revolver just as this lockdown crap started. A hollow-point 357 magnum bullet combines maximum weight retention and terminal expansion to provide threat-stopping power . Thats relevance! My stance is that Lever action rifles are still very relevant in 2020, for all the reasons that people have stated. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. They were hell bent on making me reload. I would absolutely use it for home D without a second thought. Low supplies and very high demand. rifle is 17.1gr. Henry is finally putting out some side loading gate models, while still retaining the muzzle end magazine tube, so as to make them easier and safer to unload. I know both of these are on the cheap side but the fun my kids and I have when we bring this to the range is priceless. I was looking for a 357 trapper at Dons gun in Indy in the early 90s. Im just trying to figure out why in the hell a Marlin 357 lever gun has to retail at nearly 3 times what the same gun in 30-30 retails for. Cheap factory 158gr LRN is subsonic and stupid quiet for those that are complete hereticslike meand suppress their levers. The unnecessary cross bolt safety can easily be deleted with a Beartooth Mercantile safety delete kit for $35.00. The Carbine model features a 10-round tube and a 20-inch barrel. Its the truth about guns, not cooking. Thompson Center Contender Stainless Steel MGM 357 Maximum 12 Barrel (1:14). Bare essentials. I like the combo. And if even a Henry is a little rich for your blood, Rossi makes perfectly serviceable pistol-caliber levers that retail in the mid-$500s. That is fast. by Hobie Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am, Post )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. Yes, tactical Virginia, you can put a red dot on a lever gun. by Rusty Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:22 pm, Post I always assumed it was so you didnt lose your rifle when making a Sabre charge and hauling ass on your horse. I think my Henry BB 45 Colt is my fav. The 1892 is a top-ejecting model so scopes or rails are out, but the point of this gun is to be a fast-handling, medium-range rifle. . Buy 357 Maximum Brass Pistol Cases 95pcs Mixed Brass 357 Max: GunBroker is the largest seller of Reloading Supplies Ammunition Reloading All: 974082394. . Apparently it was a regular thing. The .357 Magnum cartridge is based upon Smith & Wesson's earlier .38 Special cartridge. The most common include: There are other firearms chambered in the maximum, but their availability is limited and prices can be high. Mark Penrod is one. It might not be a good reason but thats not what was asked. The easiest way to get a long gun in .357 Max is in a Handi Rifle and there is plenty written about them in the Max.

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